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Are Judd Apatow's Movies Just Chick Flicks for Dudes?
How Funny People, Knocked Up, and The 40-Year-Old Virgin allow men to explore complex emotions.
Photographic still of “The 40 Year Old Virgin” starting Catherine Keener and Steve Carell, courtesy of Universal Pictures.
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This is the third entry in a dialogue about the films of Judd Apatow and the state of the romantic comedy among Double X Managing Editor Jessica Grose, Slate critic Troy Patterson, and Variety contributor Lael Loewenstein. Read the first entry here, and the second entry here.
Troy and Jessica:
Glad to join the discussion. You’ve left me with plenty to contemplate.
Funny People is Judd Apatow’s most tonally ambitious movie. It’s also his least successful. Up until now the films he’s directed have explored male friendship and insecurity vis-à-vis heterosexual initiation and dating (The 40-Year-Old Virgin), and impending parenthood (Knocked Up). Funny People raises the bar: As Apatow described it to the L.A. Times’ John Horn, “It’s a mentor story. It’s a disease movie. It’s a coming-of-age movie. It’s a movie about trying to restart an old romance. It’s 11 different movies rolled into one.” And that’s its problem. In wanting to be so many different things at once, it does none of them particularly well.
For a female viewer, the earlier films offered a fascinating and hilarious window into the mechanics and rituals of male bonding, presented in Apatow’s signature combination of raunchy, male-centric bravado and woman-friendly emotional warmth. Virgin’s Andy (Steve Carell) and Knocked Up’s Ben (Seth Rogen) are likable geeks, socially awkward guys who, despite their remarkable ineptitude with women, are validated by their essential sweetness. Funny People’s Ira (Rogen) is struck from the same mold. Emotionally immature, coarse-humored and relatively inexperienced sexually, he can’t score with Daisy (Aubrey Plaza) to save his life.
When George Simmons (Adam Sandler) takes Ira under his wing, it’s the first meaningful relationship that Ira has had. Unlike the SmartTech colleagues in Virgin and the stoner dudes in Knocked Up, Ira’s fiercely competitive roommates (Jonah Hill and Jason Schwartzman) offer neither advice nor solace, but rather a daily diet of derision. With George, Ira finds a job (assistant/joke writer), a role (confidant) and, in effect, a family. It’s not for nothing that they’re named after the Gershwin brothers. But it’s a deeply complicated friendship, to be sure: “You’re my best friend,” George tells Ira, “and I don’t even like you.”
Without a doubt, the central relationship in Funny People is the bromance between George and Ira: their dialogue crackles and their scenes together spark with the love-hate dynamic that is one of the cornerstones of smart romantic comedy. By contrast, George’s chemistry with Laura (Leslie Mann), "the one who got away," feels flat and forced. Consequently, the movie’s second half, in which George gets a second chance when his disease goes into remission, suffers by comparison to the first.
Which leads me back to Jessica’s question: What narrative purpose does Laura serve? Though she’s ostensibly the love interest, I see her more as a catalyst for the inevitable demise (and subsequent rebirth) of the Ira-George relationship. Outwardly, the film’s love triangle consists of George, Laura, and her husband Clark (Eric Bana). But its more intriguing triangle involves Ira, not Clark. Although George nearly wrecks Laura’s marriage, it is actually Laura who poses the much bigger threat to the film’s central relationship when she shows Ira the depths of George’s narcissism. As Ira tells George, “You’re the only person I know who could have a near-death experience and learn absolutely nothing.” Only after George and Ira have severed their friendship—in effect, broken up—can Ira finally move forward with Daisy. And only after a period of isolation and introspection can George show any signs of growth and move toward a rapprochement with Ira.

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Comments
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By: p.bateman | Fri, 08/07/2009 - 05:53
you are attacking the person rather than the argument.
my point stands, can there be a male version of SEX & THE CITY without the show being labeled misogynist and the men chauvinist pigs.
can women and feminists in specific tolerate 4 men discussing WOMEN on a popular tv show?
Way to make broad, sweeping
By: Luxbot | Wed, 08/05/2009 - 21:51
Way to make broad, sweeping statements, P. Bateman! And yes, I noticed your moniker. You're just a troll with an incoherent point of view, man. Try backing up and thinking a little.
@ reader2
By: p.bateman | Sun, 08/02/2009 - 06:39
im not talking about responsibility in other aspects of life. im SPECIFICALLY talking about the relationship/sexual aspects....so please keep it specific. the truth is that women get inherently uncomfortable at these things because it makes men less relationship-oriented. you feminist lot hate those romantic movies where women are obsessed with relationship and guys but you would love to see men subjected to the same shit. ihve heard a lot of feminists whine that the media and pop culture tends to exaggerate mens sexuality or something and the whole thing HURTS women because men are becoming more and more sex-oriented and feel entitled to sex.... what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
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you give all the props to women in SATC when they are having a bachelorette party ordering a male stripper but when its some young dudes doing the same the questions that arise in your feminist head are
(1) they are objectifying women, society is teaching young men to be disrespectful to women, think of them as objects etc.
(2)media is exaggerating young mens sexuality (when infact young men are naturally very interested in casual sex)
(3) such behavior is harmful to women who will seek relationships with these guys.
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moreover you will call these men PERVERTS. what the hell do you people want i wonder? cant you fcuking see the REVERSAL OF THE DOUBLE STANDARD?
re: hypocrisy
By: reader2 | Sat, 08/01/2009 - 18:07
The difference is that when women declare themselves liberated, they are saying, "I can take care of myself." It's a reaction to the 50's era infantilization of women, where they weren't even considered independent and responsible enough to open a bank account without a husband or father.
In contrast, these "liberated" Apatow men are saying the exact reverse - "I'm not going to take care of myself." I'm not going to grow up, I'm not going to be responsible, I'm not going to be functioning adult. Nah nah nah boo boo.
Neither men nor women should have to bow to societal pressures, in whatever way they are running. But once you're an adult, both men and women need to at least grow up to the point that they are responsible adults, regardless of whether or not that involves a relationship for any given person.
it is hypocrisy on part of these whiny women
By: p.bateman | Fri, 07/31/2009 - 07:14
it is hypocrisy on part of these whiny women that when women are given the message that they can be free, they dont need a man in life to save them, they can have casual sex, they can explore their sexualities, the message is seen as positive and LIBERATING and breaking the tradition barriers.
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but when men are given this message that 'they dont need a woman in life', they can do without marriage and responsibility and be find casual sex fulfilling and exciting, this message is seen as misogynist and hurtful to women.
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for some reason, in todays society it always has to be about women and their interests....it always has to be seen from a womans point of view. the hypocrisy is mind boggling.